Artone Bluetooth LoopSet

[jchap2k]

Has anyone had any experience with this bluetooth neck loop solution? It seems like it is more compact than the Eli with neck loop. (I am planning on trying out the Micropower HA which can not be used with the Eli through direct plug as far as my understanding goes)

[Admin]

Yes, most if not all of the "micro" products from Phonak are not compatible with the ELI, thus you will have to use the My Link (loop) or another brand of T-coil loop to receive bluetooth signals.

This Artone looks interesting.

I will order one and give it a try and report back.

Please also let us know if you end up with it also.

[jchap2k]

I also am going to order it and try it out. I ended up getting the microSavia ART (though they wont be in until next week :( ) After I get my hearing aids and my Artone device I will give some impressions on it as well.


Yes, most if not all of the "micro" products from Phonak are not compatible with the ELI, thus you will have to use the My Link (loop) or another brand of T-coil loop to receive bluetooth signals.

This Artone looks interesting.

I will order one and give it a try and report back.

Please also let us know if you end up with it also.

[Admin]

I ordered a set of the Artones and will try them on several different types of hearing aids.

The Savia Art are great hearing aids...on the expensive side but you do get what you pay for.

Let us know how the combo works for you.

It is a lot cheaper this route versus spending $2K on the Micro Link/My Link system.

I am very curious as to how this all works out.

[jchap2k]

I will have to be using a remote to change my hearing aids to the correct setting, as I am currently trying out the microSavias, which do not have EasyPhone. I am sure that I will get use to clicking an extra button before I answer the phone, but come on Phonak! :P Even the ITE Savia Arts have EasyPhone, and the micros have at least as much room for electronics as the ITE model :/. Aside from that, I really am liking these hearing aids.

As far as the Artone goes, I ordered from some company that was selling them at 220 rather than the 300 that they go for on the Artone web site. Unfortually, ATM the cheaper ones are on back order for like 2 weeks I was told. Once I get a chance to play with it I will report back.

[Admin]

With neckloops, you would want to manually switch instead of using easyphone anyway, as the magnetic strength is too low to activate easyphone, even on the ITE models.

I just got my Artone bluetooth neckloop this afternoon, so I will try them out on Monday and post ASAP.

I have also setup an account w/ them and should be able to sell them for around $150-$160 each.

[jchap2k]

Wow that is a lot cheaper than what I would have paid. The place I ordered from was on back order, so I am canceling that order for now, and will wait until you try them out.

Where can I buy one from you should it turn out to be a great solution?

jchap2k

[jchap2k]

Any word on your impressions of the Artone bluetooth neck-loop?

[Admin]

Yes, the Artone Bluetooth Neckloops have worked out very very well.

I prefer using it with a small custom CIC I had a manufacturer build for me, with just a telecoil, so it is virtually invisible.

We are currently selling the Artone Neckloops on our site at: http://www.localbattery.com/bluetooth-neckloop.html

[jchap2k]

Well I have had my Artone neckloop for quite a while now. I own both the bluetooth one and the wired one. (the wired one I use as my Skype headset through a 2.5mm to PC headset adapter I got for like 2 bucks :p).

I really am liking my neckloop as well. I am using it with an HTC P3600 phone, and I love the fact that the Artone neckloop included the functionality for hands free operations. A huge plus for me, since I do not hardly ever have to even look at my phone to call people.

Great product, and I hope more come around like it. I will continue to be on the look out for cool new stuff like the Artone neckloops.

If I do find another one that looks like it has great potential I will let you know again :)

jchap2k

[sgeise]

This thread is a little old, but I thought I'd add to it for the next new user to come along.

I have an Artone neckloop. My hearing aids are Siemans Cielos. The sound quality, and volume is fantastic. And being able to use BOTH hearing aids while on the phone is a huge plus. The only drawback I have is when I am in a noisy location. I have my Cielos set to also use the microphone when in telecoil mode. Normally, that has been a good choice for me. But I'm starting to think about having one of my aids set for coil only when on the phone. I'll use it awhile longer before I decide.

The neckloop has full functionality with my Razor phone. With my Treo PDA, it has limitied functionality. It seems the phone can't do as much as the neckloop, so I can not fault Artone there.

All in all, it works well. It's just a crying shame that even at $170.00 (or so) it IS overpriced. But, it seems "normal" to over charge folks who really need something, because we'll pay. :mad:

[FairTed]

Yes, most if not all of the "micro" products from Phonak are not compatible with the ELI, thus you will have to use the My Link (loop) or another brand of T-coil loop to receive bluetooth signals.

This Artone looks interesting.

I will order one and give it a try and report back.

Please also let us know if you end up with it also.


I recently purchased the Maxit loopset, which although is slightly bigger than the Artone loop, the reception performance and application range is much better - very happy!

[FairTed]

I recently purchased a Maxit loopset from Alibaba and found it works great with MP3 and my Nokia phone, it also has Blutooth version 2.0 compatability. Am verry happy

[roboc]

how do you know that the performance is much better? did you try Artone Loopset?? You bought both and decided that one of them is better?

Im an electronics engineer,
I have artone Loopset for 2 years now, one of their first models, and it works grate (although then they had bluetooth V.1 back then, now it should be better ), the sound fantastic and its very comfortable. Even the rechargeable battery after 2 years hold the charge very well. I used it with Nokia phones and HP Ipaq .
The performance is excellent on artone -
you wrote that the application range is much better on MASIT, the aplication can't be different "fairted"- what applications? can you base it on something? the application for all Bluetooth audio chips (same version)are similar! If you don't know what you saying, don't say it! Also you did not mention what kind of MP3 you use... as MASIT can not work with regular MP3 players as they are not bluetooth compatible (there is possibility but you need special device to make MP3 players bluetooth compatible, but it can work just like that...), don't confuse people with phony advertisement!

[hendricks101]

I just received the Artone loop set

I was able to pair it with my phone.

But now I don't hear anything in my aids.

I just received my aids (Unitron element 16 moda) in march.

I am beginning to wonder if the auto telephone sensing is working or turned on.

Have any of you used this loop set with the unitron ?

I will try to see a audy tomorrow and advise.

Tom H

[hendricks101]

Hi,

Today Wed july 25th I visited my Audi concerning my Artone bluetooth
situation stated above.

He enabled the Auto sensing east tel and that worked out good for those phones
that have a tele coil in them (basically the old MA bell hand sets) the auto sense still doesn't work with the newer wireless phones. My aids would not
sense the artone tone in this mode. However !

We decided to try the setting for loopsets as a separte program and the Artone
does work with this program. I was hoping that the auto sense would work.

Now my only problem seems to be sound loudness in my ears (not always high enough) after some trial and error I think I'm able to say that the loudness isue maybe caused by other persons who call me that are also
using Bluetooth instead of talking into thier phone. When faced with a
low volume call I ask the person calling if they are using Bluetooth to see
if my guess is right. I will advise my findings.

Not sure I understand why all the features of my Aids aren't turned on at the start of my fitting.

Tom h

ps My audi said he recently talked with a sales rep about aids that have
the Bluetooth built into future aids, the rep said the industry is working
on it but the Bluetooth uses alot of energy. ie currently lucky if you get
10 to 20 seconds with your aid battery. LOL

[Admin]

Yes, with auto sensing, auto coil, easy phone or whatever they call it, automatically switching (reed switching) telecoils often will not work with neckloops. Thus a manually accessible program for use with the telcoil works best. If you can make a specific program for use with the neckloop only and separate from regular telephones, it works even better, so that the specific program can be tweaked for best performance.

I have perfect hearing, yet when I use my bluetooth devices and the person I am speaking to is also using a bluetooth accessory, then I often find I have to ask people to repeat.

As for our earlier MAXIT post...we have tried both and know what the capabilities of both models are. Thus, we ask that any future posts about 1 product versus another be limited to actual observation. If you only have the results from one product, than please do not put down another product that has not been tested side by side.

On our website (www.localbattery.com (http://www.localbattery.com)), we sell the product that we felt worked the best and had the best benefit for our customers.

[jchap2k]

Yes, the Artone Bluetooth Neckloops have worked out very very well.

I prefer using it with a small custom CIC I had a manufacturer build for me, with just a telecoil, so it is virtually invisible.

We are currently selling the Artone Neckloops on our site at: http://www.localbattery.com/bluetooth-neckloop.html


I have a friend that is curious how much a small custom CIC as you described would cost. He is interested in the neckloop bluetooth applications.

[hendricks101]

As my previous posts show I am in the process of learning to use
the Artone loop set . My main issue is the volume( not high enough
in a noisy situation)

I have made a appointment with my audi to adjust the volume up much
higher on the program we set up for the loop set.

I have determined the Bluetooth volume resets the volume to mid way
point when turned off, so when I make my first call I must readjust it to
the maximum of the 15 settings before using ( i forget to do this and
then miss calls).

I will have the Audi set the volume up much higher so when i start out
I can either raise or lower the sound level as needed. this way I can hear better when its noisy.

I really like this Artone product, especially the stereo effect.

Tom

[Admin]

Yes, you may want your audi to set the T-coil program higher. Some newer digitals, such as the Oticon Epoch will actually let the audi choose a telecoil program differently. Most manufacturers only have 1 telecoil choice, whereas the Oticon Epoch can choose between telephone T-coil or loop systems. The loop system choice gives greater gain, since the magnetic induction is less powerful when farther from the device.

[hendricks101]

Yes, that's exactly what my Audi did, he set up a program for the telephone and another one for the loop set. (we will be adjusting the loop set program)

I just love to use some if not all the toys my aids have to offer

tom

[orbis]

I have just purchased the Artone Bluetooth Loopset. I can't hear my own voice through the loopset while talking on the phone. Is this normal ? I find it a bit disconcerting not being able to judge how loud I should be talking. I have a nokia LPS-4 loopset, I can hear my own voice loud and clear. I have tried it with two different phone. If anyone has the Artone I would appreciate some feedback

[hendricks101]

I have the Artone working good now since i had the Audi raise the volume
a little.

As far as hearing my voice I have been asking the person I am talking to
if I am too loud or just right etc.

So far this has worked, I think hearing my own voice would be a distraction.


Tom

[Mike_H]

I found a great Bluetooth device. It is better than the ELI by far. It is called the Blue Freedom. I found a great price for it at www.beyondhearingaids.com. The company's web site for the Blue Freedom is www.directlinkone.com, but they sell it for a whole lot more than beyondhearingaids.

[adgraham]

I've had great luck with the Artone product and I've found that Artone backs up their product. Great Company - great product. To be fair, I haven't used the MAX-IT, but I don't have any reason too. I use the Artone all day and charge it at night. I wouldn't want to have to change batteries.

[Artone]

adgrahm, thank you for your post, we very glad to know you find the product useful.

There two question regarding Artone Bluetooth loopset on this forum I would like to answer.

There is one post that says – I can’t hear my own voice-

We tried to achieve this on purpose- to avoid an echo effect, which would create even more distortion and misunderstanding of the conversation.

The other thing is –the battery – the L-ion battery that we use should last not less then any battery of a music player or phone on the market – few years (there is not exact time only estimates, but after 2 years of selling this product we rarely receive a complain about battery).

As well adgrahm asked in one of his post about compatibility of Bluetooth loopset and cordless phone - we did not test the unit, how ever we received a feedback from users who did, relaying on the users email - Artone Bluetooth LoopSet works with fine BT Glide “British Telecom (BT) Glide Cordless Phone works absolutely fine with the Loopset” .
Hopefully this information will help some one.

[sgeise]

Artone,
I'd like to ask about using your loop with a specific cellphone. Is there a link or email I should use? Or is this forum okay?

Thanks

[Artone]

Artone,
I'd like to ask about using your loop with a specific cellphone. Is there a link or email I should use? Or is this forum okay?

Thanks

Hello sgeise,
Any question could useful as well for other users/readers - so you can use this forum.

In general – our Bluetooth Loopset is compatible with any Bluetooth compatible phone.

[jchap2k]

Is there any place we can buy extra USB chargers? I would like to have one or two extra ones for my office, and for travel. (I hate when I forget my charger at work and my loop dies at home)

[Artone]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello - did not want to leave this post with out reply - however replied already in the other thread.

If any one has problems with charger or USB cord please write us to our website email.

[rsc0018]

Will the Artone work with my Blackberry? I know it is Bluetooth compatible, but I wanted to be sure before I bought one.

[Admin]

Yes, the Artones work with the Blackberry and any bluetooth enabled phone.

I personally use a Pearl and works just fine with the Artone Neckloop.

Thanks.

[jgirardi]

I love using the neck loop too. My questions is sometimes I find the signal from the neckloop is not strong enough. I either have to turn the volume from the source (what ever the neckloop is attahced to) up or physically move the loop wire closer to my HA (wrap it around my ears as it if was a hook). Is the problem with the neck loop or the t-coil in my HA? How is the strength of the signal from the artone bluetooth loop? Is the volume increase strong?

[Admin]

The neckloop strength is very good. If the volume is a little low, have your audi boost up the gain on the telecoil program, or if you can, make a separate telecoil program just to use with the neckloop with a high amount of gain and noise reduction.

On some hearing aids, you can also change the settings for the telecoil between weak, average or strong telecoil fields. If you set them to weak, then the instrument will use more gain and thus more volume will come through.

[Mikejl]

I Just received my Artone Neckloop and have it paired with my Motorola Razr. I have the Phonak Audeo IX's. The problem is I can barely hear the caller's voice through my HA's when I wear the neckloop normally. If I bring the neckloop up around my ears, the caller's voice comes through loud and clear (too loud actually).

Is their something wrong with my neckloop or my hearing aids? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Mike

[Mikejl]

Yes, you may want your audi to set the T-coil program higher. Some newer digitals, such as the Oticon Epoch will actually let the audi choose a telecoil program differently. Most manufacturers only have 1 telecoil choice, whereas the Oticon Epoch can choose between telephone T-coil or loop systems. The loop system choice gives greater gain, since the magnetic induction is less powerful when farther from the device.

Admin - Do you know if the Audeo IX's have a setting for loop systems?

Thank you,
Mike

[hearnow]

The audeo range do have a telecoil setting that can be altered to work well for a loop by your audi. The telecoil program would have to be manually selected using the remote control. I suspect when you bring the loopset close to the hearing aids it triggers into autophone mode, which may have been set for telecoil but the neckloop does not have a strong enough magnetic field to trigger the aid into autophone when around your neck. So a manual t-coil program with more gain might so the trick.

[Mikejl]

Hearnow - thank you for your reply. I did have my HIS create a t-coil program. I have been tinkering with the Artone and reread the insert that came with the Artone manual. It looks like the it takes a while for the neckloop to come up to full volume.

"Important - Volume
The device is set to minimum volume level, you must adjust the volume after pairing, by pressing the "+" button until the unit reaches maximum volume gain. (in order to reach maximal volume the button must be pressed at least 7 times, please press with one seond intervals). The unit should be turned off and then on - please be patient, the volume goes up very gradually for better ecomonmy purposes."

I have the volume all the way up on my Plantronic bluetooth base connected to my work phone and the t-coil program volume pumped up with my remote and I believe the neckloop is now at full volume. I can hear calls now albeit at a lower than comfortable volume.

As long as I have some gain left to adjust on my t-coil setting I should be in good shape after my appointment next week.

Mike

[jbobp]

Does anyone know if this device works with the ReSound Dot? I don’t believe it will.

[joesc]

As long as you have a t-coil setting, it should work with it.

[jbobp]

I don't think the Dot has a T-coil.

[joesc]

I find that hard to believe. Most hearing aids come with a t-coil. If not, it can be added. Ask your audi about that.

[jbobp]

I forgot to ask yesterday and she left town until Friday when I have a return appointment. There are other audis at another clinic if I have problems, but I didn’t want to bother them with such a small issue. I was hoping someone here would know. Is the T-coil added via programming? At some point I will have to do something for the phone even if it’s the Artone hard-wired loop.

[Mikejl]

jbobp - I copied this from another website:

A telecoil is a special circuit inside the hearing aid. It is simply a small coil of wire designed to pick up a magnetic signal. Telecoils can only fit in two styles of hearing aids: In-The-Ear and Behind-The-Ear aids. The smaller hearing aids are not large enough to fit the telecoil.
Here is the link if you would like to learn more about t-coils.

http://www.beyondhearingaids.com/Resource/ALDArticles/Telecoils.Htm

The part about smaller hearing aids not being large enough is no longer true. My Audeo IX's have a t-coil and they are tiny.

Mike

[hearnow]

I just had a look at the dot's spec sheet and it seems it doesn't have a t-coil. The audeo does have one, which is why it is slightly larger than the Oticon Delta (no t-coil) and relatively much larger than the dot. The reasoning behind this is that you would seldom need t-coil with a HF loss for which these were designed as phones mainly carry low frequency info (up to around 3,2Khz) which most users of these devices have little trouble with.

[jbobp]

jbobp - I copied this from another website:


Here is the link if you would like to learn more about t-coils.

http://www.beyondhearingaids.com/Resource/ALDArticles/Telecoils.Htm

The part about smaller hearing aids not being large enough is no longer true. My Audeo IX's have a t-coil and they are tiny.

Mike

Thanks for the link.

[jbobp]

I just had a look at the dot's spec sheet and it seems it doesn't have a t-coil. The audeo does have one, which is why it is slightly larger than the Oticon Delta (no t-coil) and relatively much larger than the dot. The reasoning behind this is that you would seldom need t-coil with a HF loss for which these were designed as phones mainly carry low frequency info (up to around 3,2Khz) which most users of these devices have little trouble with.


Thanks for the info. I guess to go hands free I’ll need the Artone wired loop.

[nize]

i just ordered and received my artone bluetooth from localbattery, and i would like to say not only is the artone an excellent, small, convenient, long-lasting, reasonably-priced device, but also that localbattery is a great vendor with excellent product knowledge and support.

if you're comparing artone vs. eli for telecoil-only bluetooth operation, the artone easily wins. more details here;
http://www.etoengineering.com/artone_bluetooth_neckloop.htm

[Mikejl]

I went back to my HIS last week and had him adjust the gain on the t-coil program. He raised to full volume and said we could adjust down from there at my next weeks visit.

The volume is great now for hearing through the Artone with my Plantronics at work and my cell phone. However, everything else around me is loud and booming. The people close around me can hear sound coming out of my ears.

Can't the volume for the t-coil feature be adjusted independantly without the gain being global for everything else? I want the voices on the phone to be loud enough to understand without everything else around me booming.

Thank you,
Mike

[nize]

doesn't your hearing aid have a feature to turn off the microphone when the t-coil is activated? if so, that might be the solution you're looking for.

[Mikejl]

Nize, thank you for your reply. I imagine that could be an option, I'm not sure and I don't think my HIS works with t-coils very often. He specializes in Audibel and I don't believe any of their models have t-coils.

Ideally what I would like is to have a program that is just like my Autopilot progam and the t-coil gain raised to a volume that I can comfortably hear the callers. Maybe add some extra noise reduction to the mix. Is this possible?

Thanks,
Mike

[RustyBin]

Having been in touch the with Artone directly myself for a year or so now, I have to agree that the product they offer is superb, and their customer service isn't bad either!

As an update to this post, I know there is also a new model out in the US (yet to be purchased in the UK) known as the Artone S. This is still Bluetooth and is reported to give far greater output in the overall volume (something I had issues with in the original neckloop they released)

Has anyone had experience of the Artone S in comparison with it's original model?

[poker]

Hello.

Im from Sweden and this seems to be the only forum for ppl like us.
The "outsiders" where the manufacturs forgot the deaf ppl.

the http://www.localbattery.com/bluetooth-neckloop.html

well im used to Nokia LPS-4 and the soundquality is really good.
Is the artone better or equal?

Im waiting for Noka LPS-5 and the price would be the same, about 160 dollar.
(i guess)

[Neilk]

Hi Poker, don't have any information on these at all ... but I wanted to say WELCOME to the board. I'm glad that you found us :)

[TonyA]

Hi Poker

I'm a gadget freak and like to try out new things when I can. As far as neckloops go I have yet to find something that comes close to matching the Nokia neckloops.

If you are looking for a Bluetooth enabled t-coil 'thingy' then I find the Beetle ear hook to be excellent.

Cheers,

Tony

[poker]

Thanks ppl.

Right know i want to be in the sunny Cali.

damn this winter in the north part of sweden can kill every good relationship!

Anyhow, this Nokia LPS-5 (it´s a bluetooth wireless headset for hearing aids with a t-coil)

It´s delayed by nokia to the third quarter 2009.
Talk about annoying and no such info why and when really.
Anyone know more?

But i guess Nokia doesnt want to be like SonyEricsson that use US as beta tester.

[Artone]

Hello Poker,
If you want to get more info regarding our products (Artone Bluetooth loopset) in Sweden you can contact local Starky reps, they represent us in Sweden.
I personally have held the LPS 5 in hands (in an expo), the only advantage it may have, is a build in Vibrator (most phones have one...), otherwise in my subjective opinion, I believe our product is better. - and definitely better designed.

[canuhearmenow]

Amazon has two different devices:

* Artone Bluetooth Neckloop for Hearing Aids

* Artone MS Bluetooth Neckloop for Hearing Aids


the latter is $10 more, links with 2 devices, and is much uglier (sorry).

any other differences?

thanks

[Artone]

Amazon has two different devices:

* Artone Bluetooth Neckloop for Hearing Aids

* Artone MS Bluetooth Neckloop for Hearing Aids


the latter is $10 more, links with 2 devices, and is much uglier (sorry).

any other differences?

thanks
Hello,
The Artone MS has also A2DP stereo profile, if you listen to music from the mobile phone then it will be useful for you. other advantages is the 2 line connection, the MS can be conected to the TV (though TVB) and mobile phone in the same time, with priority to mobile phone.
regarding the design, we will do better on our next version. this one is more strict then the Artone bluetooth loopset, but many people in exhibitions did approve it.
thanks for your interest!

[ybpc]

First of all I must WARN YOU that my post is a lengthy one.. so many factors I take determining the best fit for a totally hand-free device to work with hearing aids.
Since this is my first post I'm going to tell you a little bit about myself. I've worn hearing aids with t-coils all my life from Phonak analogs to the my first digital widex hearing aids for 10 years.. add another 5 years of wearing Starkey DaVinci with Eli Bluetooth (with included DAI shoe) and recently just 1 month ago I fitted with Starkey Destiny 1200 BTE
I received the Artone Bluetooth Neckloop from Harris Communications after negotiating with the cost because Tecear sold the same product for $149 shipped I don't trust that Tecear play nicely with the returns on all of their products, not to say I bought anything from them.. So anyway, a week of trial and error with artone I'm slightly sold because I didn't realize how much potential the t-coil had in all my 27 years of wearing HAs. I used t-coils mainly with headphones or handheld flip phones instead of candybar phones because the cellphones "buzzing" issue generally omitted by the battery where the transmitter is also located. But I am overly satisfied with artone at least but not at last, mainly because I cannot stream any music from my Palm Pre which became almost a total let down for me.

But later down the road I discovered something else. Because I often use Sprintcaptel.com; a vco feature for most of my calls. After a little experiment I later found out that I was able to accomplish streaming music only with a bluetooth enabled netbook. (I imagine carrying a 10' netbook with me at all times only to hear just itunes. I just couldn't picture it happening besides the music sounded really mono or otherwise crappy on youtube and media player) But it works exceptionally well in handling voip calls.. very loud and crisp clear reception the other end of the line had no issues hearing my voice. Unless you're really standing in really poor GPRS signal or too far away from your cell phone.

The Bad: 1 issue to point out with the artone is the lack of spectrum the product advertised as 10m or 33 feet distance.. Here's my findings, when the artone paired with nokia 2620 or palm pre and it's sat in the back pants of my pockets. The results my calls become choppy and tends to lose signal with the phone. If I placed it in my front pockets or on my waist side in the holster I'm good. Even better if placed it in your shirt pocket (which I do not recommend) the transmission is flawless!Same thing happened with my bluetooth netbook, front is better. I owned the Eli bluetooth for 5 years now (cost me 500 USD) the eli sound quality is by no match for the neckloop because the artone wins hands down. The only drawback is not able to hear yourself during phone converstations like with the Eli Bluetooth and DAI. But I wouldn't hold that against Artone, just yet... As of now I'm looking at the Eli and thinking What am I going to do with it since I'm not using it anymore I don't think it's compatible with the Destiny 1200. I will find out tomorrow anyway. Also, on my list of products to check out is the Artone MS but I'm very spectacle regarding the size of that thing. I looks like some malformed army dog tag. I like the size of the Artone Bluetooth.. but how big or small the Artone MS? I searched for a answer but google or bing or isn't helping.

I don't want to sound like I'm complaining but honestly why aren't there any pictures of anyone modeling with the artone ms? I can see that the artone ms is poorly marketed here in the US. I've only been able to find picture of one wearing the artone bluetooth neckloop but not artone ms... the design sold me out especially with it's miniature size. I want the MS for the palm pre. Which has MP3 built supports only A2DP. I believe if I order this, I shouldn't bother purchasing extras to make bluetooth-enabled music devices to work with the loopset. Other alternatives are the DAI bluetooth with A2DP but not too comfortable about wearing a wire.

To the guy who said can't hear himself in a conversation with the Neckloop! Yes for some it may be a distraction. However for some, like you and I, well I find it helpful for judging the loudness and the tone of voice. You won't be asking someone at a phone interview about a job you applied for every 5mins "can you hear me now...? okay great" I'd leave that up to Verizon and their wireless advertising campaign. But I suggest you to see the audiologist... I have the appointment with them in the evening so I will post update and let you know how it goes once I have a programming set for neckloop .. I believe I can have up to 5... currently have 3 presets: 1 for automatic telephone response and mic, 2 for FM and automatic telephone response and mic, 3 for T-coil only but no mic (currently I'm able to use the neckloop only on this program). There is an auto coil that i wish to test to see if that picks up the neckloop while hearing myself in phone conversations. In the meantime, keep posted. Thanks.

[Artone]

Hello,
As requested I'm posting so measurement of the Artone MS:

length: 2.5inch
width : 1inch
hight: 0.6inch

The device is similar by its size to Artone Bluetooth Loopset, it is smaller smaller then standard cigarette lighter.

Pictures and brochures are available at:
http://www.artonecs.com/Marketingmaterial.html

[Hask12]

Well for me it still comes down to the same thing. Is The MS loud enough for someone with a profound hearing loss.

[Hask12]

The weird thing about this whole thread is the number of positive comments from junior members who don't seem to have responded to anything else. Also I contacted Artone a while ago regarding compatibility issues with the TVB and other brand neckloops and never got a response. I find that very annoying.
So is the Artone loud enough for someone with a profound loss. The add says for mild to severe loss, so I assume my answer is no.

[jstroud]

Hi Mike,
I too specialize in Audibel. Audibel does manufacture products that have t-coils. Almost all of their products can come with a t-coil if requested. If you HIS doesn't seem knowledgeable about this you may search for someone in the area that handles Starkey products (they are the same thing). They may be able to help you.




Nize, thank you for your reply. I imagine that could be an option, I'm not sure and I don't think my HIS works with t-coils very often. He specializes in Audibel and I don't believe any of their models have t-coils.

Ideally what I would like is to have a program that is just like my Autopilot progam and the t-coil gain raised to a volume that I can comfortably hear the callers. Maybe add some extra noise reduction to the mix. Is this possible?

Thanks,
Mike

[walterb]

Has anyone had experiece using the Artone Bluetooth Necklook to pair Oticon EpoqXWs and iPhone 3GS?

[Herbs_and_Roses]

I had used this loopset for many months with a cheap Verizon phone without any problems. When my employer supplied an iPhone I paired it with the iPhone. It worked well at first, then shortly thereafter all of a sudden the device was no longer paired and I could not use it to make a call.

Being an Hearing Loss Association of America Volunteer and Assistive Technologies Trainer, I am rather savvy when it comes to assistive technologies for the hearing impaired. I surmised that the device was broken and ordered a replacement since it was out of warranty. I ordered the exact same device. The new loopset would not pair with my iPhone either. Artone advised me that this loopset uses an older Bluetooth technology and apparently it is not compatible with the Bluetooth technology my iPhone has. I wish Artone would have noted this in the product information. Most people, inclufing myself, don't follow the technical aspects, like the different types of Bluethooth technology.

I do not recommend this bluetooth device, especially if your phone is newer. Consider the ClearSounds Quattro instead.

[tobi]

Hi, I'm new here and just today am trialing the Artone loopset with the Starkey wi 110, though I'll probably be going with the Xion plus the loopset. So far there hasn't been a problem pairing with my iPhone 4. I'm enjoying making and receiving calls. I can hear and be heard clearly with the phone in my bag.
I have lots of questions, mostly having to do with wireless streaming and blue tooth technologies.
I've been following these forums and have learned much, but feel it's time to jump in. with specifics.

[sergeihar]

Hi, I'm new here and just today am trialing the Artone loopset with the Starkey wi 110, though I'll probably be going with the Xion plus the loopset. So far there hasn't been a problem pairing with my iPhone 4. I'm enjoying making and receiving calls. I can hear and be heard clearly with the phone in my bag.
I have lots of questions, mostly having to do with wireless streaming and blue tooth technologies.
I've been following these forums and have learned much, but feel it's time to jump in. with specifics.

Could anybody please help me to fix the source of the problem with my StarKey Wi 110?
I have received my Artone MS Loopset and paired it with my BlackBerry 9530 without any problem. My audi has activated T-coil mode on the HAs. But the problem is that sound in the HAs is too low and I hardly hear and understand the speech. At the same time I communicate by phone without HA with no serious difficulties. I just want to understand whether problem is caused by Artone or it is T-coil mode settings that don't make sound enough high and clear. The problem is the same with playing media files from the phone. Sound is not natural, it is like from the broken radio.

Thanks in advance.

[Um bongo]

Could anybody please help me to fix the source of the problem with my StarKey Wi 110?
I have received my Artone MS Loopset and paired it with my BlackBerry 9530 without any problem. My audi has activated T-coil mode on the HAs. But the problem is that sound in the HAs is too low and I hardly hear and understand the speech. At the same time I communicate by phone without HA with no serious difficulties. I just want to understand whether problem is caused by Artone or it is T-coil mode settings that don't make sound enough high and clear. The problem is the same with playing media files from the phone. Sound is not natural, it is like from the broken radio.

Thanks in advance.

Sounds like leakage of the sound from your open fit. The aid is principly designed to accentuate the high frequency parts of speech, while not changing the natural low frequency tones. When you feed the sound in via the electronics only, with no actual sound energy, it can sound poor unless the signal is re-balanced to reflect the openness of the ear canal.

It's easy to check this, just stick your fingers over your open canals, if the sound gets better, it's the setting of the aid. If the sound is still rubbish there could be an issue with the performance of you loop or the loop pick-up within the aid.

As another thought, I'm assuming that the neck-look is mono, is the feed on your crackberry mono too. You'll either have a bridged output (which isn't great for the driving source) or just one of the stereo channels - which will halve your output power and make stuff like the Beatles un-listenable.