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    Hi,

    I'm new. I'm also looking for my first pair of hearing aids. I was tested at Costco and have my results. I found a seller on Ebay called bidbybid. He (Phil) suggested a pair of Hansaton mini Velvets after I asked about another model of Hansaton. These are supposed to work better because I have high frequency loss. They cost a lot less than the Costco Signature brand.

    Would appreciate any suggestions and opinions.

    Thanks!!

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    In my opinion, being evaluated and serviced by a competent hearing professional is very important. I do not think tou can generally get that level of service over the Internet.
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    I have personally dealt with Phillip and purchased hearing aids from him on more than one occasion. He is extremely responsive, knowledgeable and caring. After a few years I need someone to fix my out of warranty hearing aids. He gave me someone, i am over 3000 miles from bidbybid, the expert repair was nearby and charged me basically nothing ( a cracked case on a CIC hearing aid).

    I agree you need a competetnt local audiologist, but that person can test your hearing and program for next to nothing. A hearing test is generally free but a tweek in the hearing aids is about 50 bucks for both. A tweek happens only once or twice in five years.

    Phillip basically only writes up a hearing instrument a couple of hundred dollars and makes a living on volume. Where your local person writes ( the Hansaton Velvet hearing aids you are taking about) about $4500.00 sometimes even more.

    FYI..hearing aids is one of last areas in heathcare that hasn t been regulated so markups are huge . I am not related or work for Phillip just a truly satisfied customer that has a few extra bucks in my pocket.

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    I agree, Phillip of bidbybid on Ebay is a winner based on my experience. Ed

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    i'll be ordering from Phil. Thanks for the feedback. I'll post later when I receive and use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DE88 View Post
    Hi,

    They cost a lot less than the Costco Signature brand.

    Would appreciate any suggestions and opinions.

    Thanks!!
    What's the price? Is it the mini or the x-mini? It looks like the mini is a 40Db receiver and the X-Mini has the option of 45Db, 55Db, or 65Db. The X-mini looks like the Pure (Kirkland Signature at Costco) so make sure you get what you want and are comparing apples to apples. Costco has the Kirklands for $2000 a pair, not each.



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    just got the Hansatons mini velvets yesterday. i opted for the bluetooth remote. i was looking at the Siemans 700's as Philip posted on his website that they are comparable. he says they are the same just repackaged. Anyway, I found this website on the Siemans and they sure look the same. I have the same remote but mine has an "H" on it.

    Anyway, these are my first pair. Just want to share my experience. I had some doubt because of a couple of posts here. So, when I unpacked them and put everything together I put them on. At first, I was in doubt. The sound was so different. So I started to "play" around with the remote. Checked the programs. Did some adjusting. Started to read the manuals (i'm really bad as i should have did that first). Well, after a awhile everything started to go normal. Went out today with them on the whole day. Wow, everything sounds so great. My normal program is working great. The background noise program works great too. I have them hooked up to my Iphone and that works great also!! I tried them in my son's car who has a pretty good sound system and used my music program and it sounded good too. The only thing is trying to play music from Iphone directly to the Velvets. That didn't sound good. Philip told me what to expect that if I played the music direct to them. Oh, by the way, I also have a receiver where I can connect my tv or other bluetooth devices too. I haven't gotten that far.

    The sound is very natural and I can hear very good now. My eldest daughter didn't even know i was wearing them. Wow, it's really been a good experience! I'm very happy with them. Philip did a great job. He's a good guy. He was very informative. Answered all my questions. And yes, I highly recommend him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DE88 View Post
    Hi,

    I'm new. I'm also looking for my first pair of hearing aids. I was tested at Costco and have my results. I found a seller on Ebay called bidbybid. He (Phil) suggested a pair of Hansaton mini Velvets after I asked about another model of Hansaton. These are supposed to work better because I have high frequency loss. They cost a lot less than the Costco Signature brand.

    Would appreciate any suggestions and opinions.

    Thanks!!
    I know it's too late now, but I encountered this brand for the first time this week.

    My concern with them is that they have only recently started selling in America, they are a foreign import, and not from a mainstream company.

    The one I saw a patient had them just a few months, and yet STILL bought new aids from Starkey because when they heard the difference, there was "no comparison" he told me.

    The Hansaton Vento he had was ugly and bulky. The feedback suppression was worthless. And the only way to get the aid to sound right was to have a double flanged occluded ear bud, which was uncomfortable, caused occlusion, and yet there were still feedback issues on a loss for which that shouldn't be an issue.

    The only real claim to fame these aids had upon reading the web site, was that they could hit 12KHz, unlike most aids. However, research has shown that there is no real advantage in this for adults, this particular patient has lost 90dB at 8KHz, and although I didn't measure it, I would suspect that at 12KHz he has lost even more, in which case I'd bet good money that the extra half octive of sound (just four white notes on a piano) provide no measurable benefit. Yet it does cause frequent and spontaneous feedback.

    Upon reading the 'technical highlights' on their web site there are only three claims made. One is the aforementioned extended frequency range. The next is the feedback suppression, that was just about worthless in real life. And finally it brags about 'melody beeps' to let you know if it needs a new battery or service. Most quality aids these days provide those, and many even use voice signals if they need to tell you something. So an aid that can beep at you was nothing new 5 years ago!

    Finally this same patient, who had worn these aids for six months said one had just broken down, which was his reason for deciding to buy new aids. The specialist had the aid over a week and it still hadn't been fixed. Another issue with dealing with a relatively unknown foreign import.

    So my first real life experience with this hearing aid system was incredibly negative. Now granted, the satisfied patients are not coming to see me. But still, if I were buying hearing aids, I'd worry about the service from such a newcomer versus the much larger, stable, and relatively established companies who can afford to invest more in research and development.

    I think the patient I saw paid $2300 for the pair. So at least in hearing aids terms they were cheap. Of course if you are already shopping for a replacement six months later after one has already stopped working, that's perhaps a case of buy cheap and buy twice. Not cheap in the long run.

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    i didn't mention that i have a US warranty for 3 years (the warranty card comes in a plastic card like a credit card) and since i purchased it with a Amex card that gives me an additional 1 year. i also have a replacement warranty for one year incase they are lost but it's a $250 per aid deductible :-( i don't plan on losing them :-)

    i'm not sure about the other brands. cost was important to me as i can't afford the $2000+ ones. after philip viewed my hearing results, he said the Velvets would suffice. he sure was right. again, these have been wonderful. no one so far has been able to detect them unless i tell them. oh, and by the way, i'm bald. no hair to cover these. i'm just very happy with them and i hope everyone out there can find a pair that they will be happy with too. I paid $1499 ($1299 with just the simple remote) because i chose to have the bluetooth remote and receiver. i control my programs, volume, treble, bass and phone from my remote. the receiver is for the tv and other components in which i will be able to control from the remote also. again, i believe that these are rebranded from the Siemens 700. after looking at the pics they look exactly the same and the specs are what mine says. philip did mention that Siemens controls more than 50% of the market and other companies buy in bulk and rebrand. For example, this is what Costco does. if i'm not mistaken their brand, made by rexton, comes from Siemens.

    what's important is all of us share our experience. i've learned a lot from the boards but in the end we should be happy with brand that we end up with.
    Last edited by DE88; 07-17-2011 at 11:48 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by DE88 View Post
    i didn't mention that i have a US warranty for 3 years (the warranty card comes in a plastic card like a credit card) and since i purchased it with a Amex card that gives me an additional 1 year. i also have a replacement warranty for one year incase they are lost but it's a $250 per aid deductible :-( i don't plan on losing them :-)

    i'm not sure about the other brands. cost was important to me as i can't afford the $2000+ ones. after philip viewed my hearing results, he said the Velvets would suffice. he sure was right. again, these have been wonderful. no one so far has been able to detect them unless i tell them. oh, and by the way, i'm bald. no hair to cover these. i'm just very happy with them and i hope everyone out there can find a pair that they will be happy with too. I paid $1499 ($1299 with just the simple remote) because i chose to have the bluetooth remote and receiver. i control my programs, volume, treble, bass and phone from my remote. the receiver is for the tv and other components in which i will be able to control from the remote also. again, i believe that these are rebranded from the Siemens 700. after looking at the pics they look exactly the same and the specs are what mine says. philip did mention that Siemens controls more than 50% of the market and other companies buy in bulk and rebrand. For example, this is what Costco does. if i'm not mistaken their brand, made by rexton, comes from Siemens.

    what's important is all of us share our experience. i've learned a lot from the boards but in the end we should be happy with brand that we end up with.
    Sounds like you got a good price, so that's good. Hope they work out for you.

    On the subject of insurance, you should know that State Farm, and many others offer a personal articles policy that can be written on hearing aids. Then zero deductible if you have to claim. Since you can specify the replacement value, you may even be able to insure only the deductible or you might insure the whole thing either now, or when the insurance they included runs out.

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