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    Lightbulb Phonak to launch next generation platform Belong.

    So finally Phonak is releasing their new Platform Belong, although it seems they are only pushing rechargeable batteries! no mention at all about Belong using 2.4gHz?

    http://e2.marco.ch/publish/sonova/67...4-113-0-5.html

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    Fascinating.

    I can see the appeal of rechargeable batteries: More power. If the rechargeable battery is not user replaceable (like an iPhone), then it will have fewer mechanical parts—making waterproofing easier. You have more design freedom because you're not designing around a standard battery size; you can shape the battery in a number of ways— potentially leading to new styles of hearing aids. Not sure the technology is there yet for me, personally, but I support its development.
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    Personally I do not want to have to replace my HAs as often as my iPhone. They cost 10 X the price and really I would prefer to not replace the iPhone so often either. No user replaceable battery just equals planned obsolescence - which is already a major problem in the HA industry. And yes, where is the 2.4 GHz iPhone connectivity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psocoptera View Post
    And yes, where is the 2.4 GHz iPhone connectivity?
    There is no 2.4 GHz because they are telling their investors that the "non-users" they surveyed don't want it. ( see slides 17 & 18).

    http://www.sonova.com/en/system/file...nak_belong.pdf
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    How many non-users knew what they wanted/needed before trying their first HA? It is a steep learning curve and Phonak are just interested in how many non-users they think they can convert to users so they can increase the market. This is short sighted if they do not satisfy the needs of current users. And since their only customers are HIS and audiologists we users take a back seat to increasing sales. I don't think Phonak are alone on that score.

    I think Phonak have discovered how hard it is to build a HA that interfaces directly with all Bluetooth enabled phones (like they told their investors they aimed for) so they are hyping the rechargable/environment friendly angle instead. Very disappointed - maybe next time I will be forced to try Oticon because at least they have direct iPhone connection. Glad I won't need new HAs for a while - no way I will buy rechargables without replacement batteries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icanseeyourhalo View Post
    Fascinating.

    I can see the appeal of rechargeable batteries: More power. .
    Isn't that the other way around? Replaceable batteries have less power, regular batteries last longer

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    No. Rechargables are reported to last one day -- about 15 or so hours for 312 size.
    Zinc replaceables last 5-8 days depending on brand/usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenP View Post
    No. Rechargables are reported to last one day -- about 15 or so hours for 312 size.
    Zinc replaceables last 5-8 days depending on brand/usage.
    I apologize, that is what I wanted to say, I said 'replaceable', but I wanted to say 'rechargable': Rechargable batteries have less power, regular batteries last longer

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    What happens when you travel, camp, etc. Is there a place for a conventional battery? Bad idea, I'd never buy one. Plus, I have too many things to charge every night right now, iPhone, iPad, laptop, and more.

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    As we can see in the phonak USA web page, there is two different Phonak Audeo Belong: with recargable batteries and with regular batteries.

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