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  1. Angry I think we all know to whose pocket the margin is going...

    I also like the blurb on the site - I realized we need to read between the lines re: where the remaining margin is going. And that actually leads to my question - I have a 11yo daughter with mild hearing loss, who has been wearing aids for over 5 years now (Siemens Music Pro BTE). Living in TX, I feel we're being held to ransom by audiologists who wish to charge ~3500 for a pair of new aids. I've done my research, and these are mid-range aids, freely available via eBay for <$2000. I can't afford the $3500 to buy them (the exact same HA) from the audiologist, it would be a stretch to get them for ~2k off the web. But when talking with the audi, he made it extremely clear that he would not support us for any aid purchased over the net.

    My question/s are these:
    - why can a adult sign a waiver but as the parent/guardian of my child (and the actual 'purchased' of the HA devices) I cannot?
    - why would/should I stretch to pay the 3500 to the audi, when this is less than $500 less than buying a complete second second set via eBay?
    - leaving my indignation aside for the moment, and asking a more 'people' focused question, how in good conscience can an audiologist who *knows* my child needs HA's, *knows* I can't afford them from you but can get them from elsewhere, refused to support us in our support of our child? How can they, with a straight face, tell us that they have our childs best interest at heart? Do i need to pay a 1500+ premium for you to care? really? Really?

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    The present anachronistic distribution system in most countries is the result of powerful lobbies protecting vested interests.

    Technology today could mass produce innovative hearing aids to be sold by the mass retailers that would be satisfactory for the majority of hard of hearing at a tiny fraction of the prices needed by the present inefficient professional purveyors.

    Look at comparable electronic devices and you will see how innovation and efficient distribution results in far lower prices. Ed

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    I bought a very inexpensive hearing aid brand new off Ebay made by a major manufacturer about 18 months ago--in total it cost me $125 to hear converstations again. It is still under warranty but I decided to upgrade. As I do not have enough money to go buy them at an audiologist's office I, again went to EBay. I was able to nuy a pair of name brand, current brand new hearing aids for $650 which would have easliy cost me over $3000 had I gone to an audiologist.

    It's great for you that you can afford the extra piece of mind but there are many many of us that just want to hear our families talk or our grand children's first vocalizations. Please don;t make such sweeping generalizations! It is like anything --you have to be careful --before you buy--but don;t scare people off who are in desperate need of hearing aids that are often priced as much as a used car!

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    I have been wearing BTE's for 50yrs mostly Oticons, after my last 380P, 3yrs ago which was still working, I was looking on Ebay, I purchased a new Siemens Phoenix 313, I recently posted been having problems with it, found it just needed a cleaning in the battery compartment, in the meantime while I was cleaning the 313, I was wearing the Oticon 380P, I could not wait to get the 313 back on, the power is night and day difference, I will buy online whether it be Ebay or a reliable seller, but never back to an audiologist, way too pricey for me, too much mark up..........

    Chet

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    I am looking at the ebay solution as well. I have been HOH my whole life, but I have never been able to afford hearing aids. That is a simple fact of life. There are some on ebay that I might be able to afford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevefromoz View Post
    I also like the blurb on the site - I realized we need to read between the lines re: where the remaining margin is going. And that actually leads to my question - I have a 11yo daughter with mild hearing loss, who has been wearing aids for over 5 years now (Siemens Music Pro BTE). Living in TX, I feel we're being held to ransom by audiologists who wish to charge ~3500 for a pair of new aids. I've done my research, and these are mid-range aids, freely available via eBay for <$2000. I can't afford the $3500 to buy them (the exact same HA) from the audiologist, it would be a stretch to get them for ~2k off the web. But when talking with the audi, he made it extremely clear that he would not support us for any aid purchased over the net.

    My question/s are these:
    - why can a adult sign a waiver but as the parent/guardian of my child (and the actual 'purchased' of the HA devices) I cannot?
    - why would/should I stretch to pay the 3500 to the audi, when this is less than $500 less than buying a complete second second set via eBay?
    - leaving my indignation aside for the moment, and asking a more 'people' focused question, how in good conscience can an audiologist who *knows* my child needs HA's, *knows* I can't afford them from you but can get them from elsewhere, refused to support us in our support of our child? How can they, with a straight face, tell us that they have our childs best interest at heart? Do i need to pay a 1500+ premium for you to care? really? Really?
    I do understand your point. Perhaps you need to look for another audi, perhaps with a different brand -Phonak, oticon - all of them which have the DSL 5.0A protocol.

    In children it is super important to follow the DSL Protocol (dsl is both a fitting formula
    and a protocol), that said- I believe it is not on your child best interest to buy HI from
    Ebay. You might be surprise that most mid price instruments are in fact better or equal to Music pro- I will consider Phonak Extra, Unitron Next 4, Oticon Hit pro.

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    Siemen's makes an excellent rugged aid called the Intuis with all the essential features. Comes in four versions for different degrees of loss. Sells new on Ebay for less than $500 each with full factory warranty. Check bidbybid on Ebay. This guy is reliable and has an almost 100% satisfaction rating. Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrC View Post
    The way i see it, hearing health coverage in the USA has 2 classes: the haves and have nots. You either have the money to buy custom hearing aids (or have insurance coverage) or you have to go without amplification.

    We physicians know that untreated hearing loss leads to depression, anxiety, and social isolation in the elderly, and a JAMA article has linked untreated hearing loss with Alzheimer's type dementia.

    As long as it is of reasonable quality, some form of amplification is better than none. In fact, Sergei Kochkin in a 2003 article in The Hearing Review points out that in numerous studies he found only a slight positive relationship between the cost of a hearing aid and the actual hearing benefit received by a consumer. So paying more does not guarantee that someone will hear noticeably better.

    A reasonable analogy is that custom hearing aids are like a new Mercedes (not just in cost!) and the better one-size-fits-most hearing aids are like a used Toyota. You can still get around in the used Toyota, and you are better off than not having any car at all.

    That is why i developed the Acoustitone PRO hearing aid. If you can't afford traditional hearing aids and are looking for a reasonable option at a reasonable price, go to http://MDHearingAid.com. If it doesn't work for you, you can return it for a risk-free experience. We have had over 95&#37; patient satisfaction measured by surveys made after purchase and the very few number of returned hearing aids.
    in Feb 2013 Dr C is still going strong. The Acoustitone PRO from mdhearingaids.com gets fabulous reviews. For a long time on amazon.com, but no more.

    A great option, imo, for a person with bad ears and limited $

    Several of my friends bought, and like.

    Q: Anybody try the new mdhearingaids.com AIR aid?

    Thanks, Dr Shreek Cherukuri!!!!!
    elijah lovejoy
    COSTCO audiogram 22jan2010
    hz 250 500 750 1k 2k 3k 4k 6k 8k hz
    left: 65 75 80 75 85 90 90 100 95
    right 25 30 25 25 25 45 50 60 65
    (left eardrum ruptured many times diving, rebuilt by ENT in 1995)
    Ph.D in mathematical psych in 1966. Retired from Univ. of Calif where I taught for 30 years.
    Also retired from U.S. State Department (baby diplomat in Barbados for 2 years).

    Now living in Hawaii (big island) and West Seattle. Don't sell anything.

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    I purchased a pair of Acoustitone Pros about two years ago, and have been very satisfied with them, although I recently purchased a pair of Siemens Touching aids on EBay for less than $200 that are even better. Either of these aids would be a fine choice for anyone who just wants basic amplification without a lot of bells and whistles. I don't really care about the warranty on my Siemens Touching aids because it is cheaper to just buy a new one than to have it repaired, if the need arises. My custom Phonak digital aids cost $200 each just to repair, which seems to be every few months. For that price, I can have a fresh new pair of Touchings. Any audiologists who dismiss these aids out of hand as Chinese junk have no basis for their assertions unless they have thoroughly tested them themselves. Just as consumers can now buy over-the -counter reading glasses much to the chagrin of optometrists, they can now also purchase high-quality hearing aids on EBay and elsewhere without the high fees, aggravation and dissatisfaction associated with audiologists. Gerald
    Quote Originally Posted by elijahlovejoy View Post
    in Feb 2013 Dr C is still going strong. The Acoustitone PRO from mdhearingaids.com gets fabulous reviews. For a long time on amazon.com, but no more.

    A great option, imo, for a person with bad ears and limited $

    Several of my friends bought, and like.

    Q: Anybody try the new mdhearingaids.com AIR aid?

    Thanks, Dr Shreek Cherukuri!!!!!

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